On the paid side, Lisa and I like to periodically give a more “personal” look behind the scenes at what’s going on in our lives and ministry. Adam Weber interviewed us recently, taking a deep dive into how we met and what our marriage has been like (including, ahem, the “spicy” side), so we thought we’d share that with all of you if you’re interested.
An interesting tidbit about Adam: when he interviewed me a few years ago, he saw in my bio that I had spoken in 49 states. He asked which one. Most people usually guessed Alaska or Hawaii, but I’ve spoken in both of those states. When I replied “South Dakota,” Adam said, “we can fix that!” because his church is in South Dakota. We had a great time at Grace Church the following year, and also loved Sioux Falls. Part of me kind of wishes we had stayed at 49 states because, as Lisa puts it, “it sounds more authentic.” But we wouldn’t give up that wonderful weekend for anything.
Listen in over on Substack HERE.

